PlayHQ has made the intention of this regulation confused and confusing.
Many teams seem to have blithely assumed that the PlayHQ electronic entry is a suitable substitute for the paper team list without paying heed to the advice at Association meetings.
Last year's regulation updates served only to make things hard to follow.
PlayHQ team lineup is too loose for our preferred practices.
It needs to be clear that we want to follow Law 1.2.1 properly and fully.
1.2 Nomination and replacement of players
1.2.1 Each captain shall nominate his/her players in writing to one of the umpires before the toss.
1.2.2 No player may be replaced after the nomination without the consent of the opposing
captain.
From The Laws of Cricket (2017 Code 3rd edition)
PlayHQ team lineup remains editable after the game to allow post game result entry by paper scorebook users.... this directly violates Reg 7.8 (no change to the team after the coin toss).
There is a permissible way to change players after the toss in case of injuries... but it's formal and controlled. See Reg 23.2....
Paper Printouts of PlayHQ team lineups on match day are acceptable (As long as they're CORRECT!!)
What about screen grabs? Emails/SMS's on people's mobile phones?.... eergh...
The solution to this problem needs a simple solution not complications.
We're going back to paper team list forms in 24/25.
The carbon paper books are too expensive and difficult to distribute.
It will be photocopied paper forms in 2024/25.
This form at the QSDCA website is the form. LINK
Print it out or make some photocopies. Captains, put it with your kit.
The new rules will emphasize the tasks of:
- CAPTAINS exchanging team lists especially in cases of no official umpire
- UMPIRES collecting team lists and maybe filing them online with their umpire report.
- No alteration to the team list after the toss unless specifically approved by the association.
Time for a rewrite.
Here's a first and second draft.
| OLD REGULATIONS |
What does it mean? |
PROPOSED NEW WORDING |
7 THE TEAM LIST
Applies to All Competitions |
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| Preamble: The Team List is a very important part of a competitive cricket match. Both Team Captains are responsible for ensuring that the Team List is ompleted with all replacement players correctly and fully named before the match begins. The Team List must not be altered after the toss. Teams risk loss of points or disqualification for failing to comply with this regulation. |
Removed parts of this are made into actual rules further down.
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Preamble: The Team List is a very important part of a competitive cricket match. Both Team Captains are responsible for ensuring that the Team List is completed with all replacement players correctly and fully named before the match begins. The Team List must not be altered after
the toss. Teams risk loss of points or disqualification for failing to
comply with this regulation. |
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from the Preamble
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7.2 Teams risk loss of points or disqualification for failing to
comply with this regulation. |
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7.3 On the first day of each match, a paper Team List will be completed by each team for all matches (xxx in all competitions. regardless of PlayHQ entries.xxx) |
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Make this a rule not a preamble |
7.x Both Team Captains are responsible for ensuring that the Team List is completed with all replacement players correctly and fully named before the match begins. |
| 7.1 The Team List means a written or electronic list of all players
eligible to bat and bowl in the match showing all replaced players and the players who replaced them at any point in the match. |
A definition, lose the electronic qualifier...
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7.1 The Team List means a written or electronic list of all players eligible to bat and bowl in the match.
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...and split it up to make it clearer..
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7.1.1 The Team List will show all replaced players and
the players who replaced them at any point in the match. |
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7.1.2 The Team List must not be altered after the toss. |
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7.1.3 Note the provisions of Playing Regulation 23 Replacement Players as it applies to each different competition. |
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7.2 Players will be listed on the Team List with their full name as shown in registration records.
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7.x Players will be listed on the Team List with their full name as shown in registration records. |
| 7.2.1 This means no use of initials or familiar names. |
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7.x.1 This means no use of initials or familiar names. |
| 7.2.2 Players named on the Team List must be registered as in Playing Regulation 3 and have clearance as in Playing Regulation 5 before the start of play. |
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7.x.2 Players named on the Team List must be registered as in Playing
Regulation 3 and have clearance as in Playing Regulation 5 before the
start of play. |
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fill ins exception? |
7.x.3 Note that PlayHQ allows not previously registered players to play one time and then they are required to be properly registered before playing a second time. This is called a "fill in". Any player who appears more than one time as a fill is in violation of Regulation 3.
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| 7.2.3 Both Captains will identify to the umpire(s) the ages of all players under 18 years. |
Reword this more clearly
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7.x.4 Each team captain is responsible for identifying the ages of players under 18 years on the Team List.
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| 7.3 A Team List will be completed for each team for all matches. | This should go higher in the list. but is repeated elsewhere.
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7.xx A paper Team List will be completed for each team for all matches. |
| 7.4 The Team Lists will be entered in the match abstract. |
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7.4 After the match has been completed, the PlayHQ team lineup will match the Team List.
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| 7.5 Captains from each team will exchange completed Team Lists before the toss. |
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7.xx Team Captains will exchange copies of the completed Team Lists before the toss. |
| 7.5.1 Teams entered electronically in PlayHQ for the match are considered exchanged for the purposes of Playing Regulations 7.5 to 7.7. |
This is revoked.
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7.5.1 Teams entered electronically in PlayHQ for the match are
considered exchanged for the purposes of Playing Regulations 7.5 to 7.7. |
| 7.6 When an Umpire is in attendance, the Team List will be given to the umpires also. |
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7.xxx When an Umpire is in attendance, Team Captains will give the completed Team Lists will be given to the umpires also. |
| 7.7 The Umpire’s Team List will be kept by the umpire. |
Add something like Umpire will file the team list somewhere? What's practical?
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7.7 The Umpire’s Team List will be kept by the umpire for a period which will exceed the possibility of dispute arising.
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| 7.8 The Team Lists will not be altered after the toss unless a replacement is authorised under Playing Regulation 23.2. |
See 7.1.2 and 7.1.3 above
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| 7.9 The Umpire’s Team List will be used as a reference in any dispute which may arise. |
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7.9 The Umpire’s Team List may be used as a reference evidence in any dispute which may arise. |
| 7.10 Example Team Lists for each competition are available at the website shown below. |
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7.10 Example Team Lists for each competition are available at the website shown below. |
SEE FULL SIZE FORM in the DIAGRAMS APPENDIX
or at https://qsdca.com.au/08f-forms-diagrams-for-match-day/ |
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SEE FULL SIZE FORM in the DIAGRAMS APPENDIX
or at https://qsdca.com.au/08f-forms-diagrams-for-match-day/ |
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After another edit, the new proposed regulation 7 looks like this:
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PROPOSED NEW WORDING
7 THE TEAM LIST
Applies to All Competitions
Preamble: The Team List is a very important part of a competitive cricket match.
7.1 The Team List means a written list of all players eligible to bat and bowl in the match.
7.2 Teams risk loss of points or disqualification for failing to comply with this regulation.
ON MATCH DAY
7.3 On the first day of every match in all competitions, a paper Team List will be completed by both teams.
7.4 Team Captains will exchange copies of the completed Team Lists before the toss.
7.5 When an Umpire is in attendance, Team Captains will give completed Team Lists to the umpire also.
7.6 Play will not begin until both Team Lists have been completed and exchanged.
COMPLETION OF THE TEAM LIST
7.7 Players will be listed on the Team List with their full name as shown in registration records.
7.7.1 Note this means no use of initials or familiar names.
7.8 Players named on the Team List must be registered as in Playing Regulation 3 and have clearance as in Playing Regulation 5 before the start of play.
7.8.1 Note that PlayHQ allows not previously registered players to play one time and then they are required to be registered before playing a second time. This is called a "fill in".
7.8.2 Any player who appears more than one time as a “fill in” is in violation of Regulation 3.
7.9 Each team captain is responsible for identifying the ages of players under 18 years on the Team List.
REPLACEMENT PLAYERS
7.10 Both Team Captains are responsible for ensuring that the Team List is completed with all replacement players correctly and fully named before the match begins.
7.11 The Team List must not be altered after the toss.
7.12.1 Note the provisions of Playing Regulation 23 Replacement Players as it applies to each different competition.
7.12.2 Note the permissions required in Playing Regulation 23.2 to replace a named player in unexpected circumstances for a Two Day match.
AFTER THE MATCH
7.12 After the match has been completed, the PlayHQ team lineup will match the Team List.
7.13 The Team List will show all unexpected replacement players and the players they replaced at any point in the match.
7.14 The Umpire’s Team List will be kept by the umpire for a length of time which will exceed the possibility of dispute arising.
7.15 The Umpire’s Team List may be used as evidence in any dispute which may arise.
7.16 Example Team Lists for each competition are available at the website https://qsdca.com.au/08f-forms-diagrams-for-match-day/
7.17 SEE FULL SIZE QSDCA FORM in the DIAGRAMS APPENDIX or at https://qsdca.com.au/08f-forms-diagrams-for-match-day/
Note: Some minor modifications (new Reg 7.2, renumbering) were made following Management Committee discussion on 27-Jun-2024
A similar change is strongly recommended for CCC Reg 7.
ABM 18-Feb-2024
(Updated 28-Jun-2024)
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